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Introduction

Glossary

1) Beginner issues

A101 Why fly electric?
A102 How do I get started?
A103 What kind of planes can I fly with electric power?
A104 How do I sign up for the AMA/MAAC?
A105 What Kind of equipment do I need?
A106 What special tools would I need?
A107 Can you suggest a few beginner setups?
A108 Are soldered or crimp joints better?
A109 What goes on which stick?

2) Safety 

A201 What safety procedures should I follow when flying?
A202 What is an arming switch?
A203 When should I use an arming switch?
A204 How much power will I lose? How much weight will I gain? 
A205 What is a fuse? Why use one? 
A206 What type of fuse should I use?
A207 How do I choose the fuse rating?
A208 How and where do I install the fuse?
A209 Are there any safety precautions for the motor battery?
A210 How do I fuse a brushless motor?

3) Batteries

A300 Battery Basics
A301 What's Volt, Amps, "C" rating, etc....?
A302 What are milli-amp hours?
A303 How fast can I charge my batteries?
A304 What is Nicad memory?
A305 What is Cell reversal?
A306 Should I cycle my packs?
A307 Can I deep discharge an individual cell safely?
A308 What is the discharge of a Nicad like?
A309 Black Wire Syndrome
A310 Low Tech Cell Matching
A311 What are the effects of series and parallel?
A312 What are NiMH batteries like?
A313 Can I use Lithium batteries for electric flight?
A314 What do the battery codes like SCR, AE mean?
A315 Is it safe to solder directly to batteries?

  4) Electric motors

A401 What does "breaking-in" a motor actually do?
A402 How do I break-in a motor?
A403 What does gearing do?
A404 How do I compare an electric motor to an IC engine?
A405 What are motor constants?
A406 What's the difference between Delta and Wye Brushless Motors?
A407 What is "timing"?
A408 How much should I advance a speed 400?
A409 How do I use the "speed 400 timing tool?"
A410 How much heat can our motors dissipate?
A411 How can I keep my motors clean?
A412 What is a sensorless motor/controller?
A413 How does a sensorless motor work?
A414 What do the motor names (Speed 400,600, 05, 25) mean?
A415 How do I do a "Water break-in" ?
A416 How do I measure motor constants ?
A417 Will this cheap Mabuchi 540/380 etc. be good for E-Flight ?
A418 How many capacitors do I need on my motor and what values ?
A419 Should I wire two motors in series or parallel?
A420 Where can I find some information on common brushed motor constants?

  5) Speed controllers (ESC's)

A501 How does a speed control work?
A502 What is the advantage of a High Rate Control?
A503 What is the best switching rate for a hi rate ESC?
A504 How does a motor brake work?
A505 What is a BEC and how does it relate to the speed control?
A506 What are the disadvantages of a BEC?
A507 What is a Cutoff?
A508 How long can I fly once the cutoff takes place?
A509 What is opto-isolation and what does it do?
A510 How do I disable the BEC on my speed control?
A511 Where does my BEC speed control plug in ?
A512 Can I control 2 brushless motors with one controller ?

 6) Propellers

A601 Why doesn't my Graupner folding prop extend all the way out?

7) Chargers

A701 How does charging current relate to capacity?
A702 How can I make certain my packs are fully charged?
A703 How does a peak (or delta peak) charger work?
A704 Will my charger work with Ni-MH batteries?
A705 Will a NiCad peak charger work with Lithium batteries?

  8) Model info

A801 What are the differences between Indoor, Slow and Park flyers?
A802 What are EDF models?
A803 What exactly are EPS/EPP/Depron and other construction foams ?
A804 What is the watts/pound rule?
A805 What does the Watt-hours/pound rule tell me?
A806 How do I match an electric power system to a given airframe?
A807 How do I convert a gas powered plane to electric?
A808 Are there any proven electric setups listed anywhere?

 9) Electrical formulas

A901 How do I calculate duration?
A902 How do I calculate Watts?
A903 How do I convert units of measure?
A904 What is Orme's Law?

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 In a brushless motor system, what's the difference between a delta wind and a wye wind? What are the advantages and disadvantages?

 

Q. In a brushless motor system, what's the difference between a delta wind and a wye wind? What are the advantages and disadvantages?

A. Matthew Orme, Aveox Inc. mailto: 102252.401@compuserve.com

Get a pencil and paper for this.

"Wye" wind Motor

Draw 3 resistors (or coils) radiating from a central point (The Wye tie). label the three ends A, B, and C. These represent the three phase connections in the Wye motor.

In the controller, each of these has 2 pair of MOSFETs connected to it, a pair to source the current, and a pair to sink the current. The motor fires something like this (simplified for clarity) A-B, A-C, B-C, B-A, C-B, C-A ad nauseam. The Magnets 'chase' the rotating magnetic field. Notice that there are always 2 phases 'commutated' at the same time, but the mix differs, and the current direction will reverse every other time. The motors resistance is the sum of any two phases i.e.. measure from any 2 phases. the third phase is open electrically when any other 2 are commutated.

"Delta" wind Motor

Draw 3 resistors connected in a triangle (delta). Each of the vertices is a phase. When you commutate CA-AB, you get most of the energy on one coil, (A), but some on (A-C-B) side. (mostly losses imo). The net result of most of the current going through one set of coils at a time, instead of 2 is that the Kt is cut in half and Kv doubles.

At Aveox, we have essentially deemed the Deltas as secondary to Wye winds in any application, except where very high degree of uniformity in both directions is very important. Things like robots that move in both directions equally put up with the efficiency losses. Since the motors are very insensitive to timing changes (unlike the Wye winds), you don't have great performance in one direction, and poor in another (without adjusting the timing), you have good performance in both (but it isn't worth the losses in a model).

They have been discontinued at Aveox for a couple of years. We do whatever we can to get them out of circulation, by changing them over at a loss. (But they are really easy to make if you insisted, and I would feel guilty afterwards). When you finish winding a stator, you have 6 wires coming out, the start and finish of each phase. connect every other one together to make the wye tie, or adjacent pairs to make the delta.

 


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